Talk:Combine

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Contents 1 Alternate Theories 2 Resemblance of Symbol 3 Research 4 Wrong Redirect 5 The Combine 6 Universal Union vs "universal union" 7 "Their slaves...we are their slaves...we are..." 8 Combine Metal

[edit] Alternate Theories

I have another theory for the genocide Eli Vance mentioned to Breen. Maybe he was referring to the events involving Xen and the Marines in HL1. Please respond to this.

Possibly. Although, I'm not sure that would qualify as a genocide, i think of genocide as bigger than a bunch of doctors.

-- Donut THX 1138 ^[Comm] 16:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

the genocide he's talking about is most likely what has happened to humanity scine the end of the seven hour war

Yeah probably, we turn some into cyborgs, other into zombies, other into stalkers, or we just kill the remaining

I have another Theory about the combine: Maybe these Grub-like Advisors are just a Larvae state of the combine, but in their young age they are not that high in hierarchy of combine, so thats why they are sent on other planets, to gain experience and grow up.

In the beta that line was considerably longer adding things like "Ive seen our cities turned into prisons, i have seen our dears murdered" and something like that.--Gurluas 14:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I am wondering about one thing, the teleporter used by kleiner and eli vance is a two way conduit (meaning you can only teleport from one teleporter to another, not into open field,atleast not intentionally and only reason why gordon freeman got beamed from lab to lab to field to breen's office to lab to outside of the lab was only b/c lamarr damaged the teleporter).Therefore the teleporter used by the combine in the nova prospect must been working on the same rules, therefore there could be another teleporter in the citadel (since judith teleported herself over there among with eli), and combine can actually posses that data. - Demise

[edit] Resemblance of Symbol

In my opinion, the symbol looks a lot like the top part of the Halo series Energy Sword. Should that be put into the article? - FstrthnU

[edit] Research

I've been doing some research on the Combine and for the Combine Soldier. Well some of them were from the overworld, and some were humans like the Metro Cops. If you know this, don't get nasty with me! -- Mega Sean 45 10:38 AM, 30 December 2008

... What?

All Combine Soldiers are created from humans, and humans don't live on the Combine Overworld. If you mean what I think you mean, I don't know where you got it from but it sounds like a mighty mixed up theory to me. --MattyDienhoff 17:47, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Not ALL Combine Soldiers were humans. I overheard that they were in the Seven Hour War, if they were all humans, i'd say the Combine did research on humans, long before the war started. Mega Sean 45 02:48, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

What have you been smoking? Overwatch Soldiers are created from existing humans, and this is what the Combine did with the scores of human soldiers they captured at the end of the Seven Hour War and, later - any citizens fit for combat that they detained. Since, again, Overwatch Soldiers were created after the war, they couldn't have participated in it. Finally, it's possible the Combine could have studied or maybe even captured some humans before the war, but how? And why? It's not as if transhuman soldiers are some kind of superweapon. The Combine had plenty of other effective units at their disposal, and their creation of Overwatch Soldiers from the human population after the war was just one of their many means of utilizing their newly acquired 'resources'. There has been nothing from any official source to suggest Overwatch Soldiers predate the invasion, and fanon and the harebrained plots that modders come up with do not count. --MattyDienhoff 03:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

"I overheard", really. Is that your source? You "overheard" this on a Counter-Strike forum? You can overhear anything you want, sir, that doesn't make it reliable. Give the official source where the overheard information comes from, and you'll be believable. Unless that, I'll call it fanon/speculation. Klow 04:04, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong Redirect

Shouldn't the redirect code Combine Overwatch be in the Overwatch page, not this? --Mega Sean 45 23:13, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Uhhhh...who is going to answer this? =P --Mega Sean 45 23:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Done--YabbaMyIcing 04:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, it's been bothering me why a Combine Overwatch redirect is on Combine and not Overwatch. --Mega Sean 45 12:04, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The Combine

Hey guys, what do you think that the Combine might look like? And I am not talking about they're combat Synths, like Striders and Hunters, or they're robots like Scanners and Manhacks. I am talking about the Citizens of the Combine Overworld, did Valve like give us any pictures of the Combine Citizens at all? --Mega Sean 45 19:25, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

i think taht they are the advisors or people that look like the xenaliens

Press the space bar twice to type it down bro, also but down "--" and the the consol signs. Be sure you remeber that, and have a nice day. --Mega Sean 45 21:54, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Universal Union vs "universal union"

The title "Universal Union" is a misnomer that has, for some reason, gained popularity. The phrase is only mentioned once in the game, by Breen during one of his speeches. The text is as follows:

BREEN: It has come to my attention that some have lately called me a collaborator, as if such a term was shameful. I ask you, what greater endeavor exists than that of collaboration? In our current unparalleled enterprise, refusal to collaborate is simply a refusal to grow--an insistence on suicide, if you will. Did the lungfish refuse to breathe air? It did not. It crept forth boldly while its brethren remained in the blackest ocean abyss, with lidless eyes forever staring at the dark, ignorant and doomed despite their eternal vigilance. Would we model ourselves on the trilobyte? Are all the accomplishments of humanity fated to be nothing more than a layer of broken plastic shardes thinly strewn across a fossil bed, sandwiched between the Burgess shale and an eon's worth of mud? In order to be true to our nature, and our destiny, we must aspire to greater things. We have outgrown our cradle. It is futile to cry for mother's milk, when our true sustenance awaits us among the stars. And only the universal union that small minds call 'The Combine' can carry us there. Therefore I say, yes, I am a collaborator. We must all collaborate, willingly, eagerly, if we expect to reap the benefits of unification. And reap we shall.

As you can see, Breen uses the term as a description, not a title; "universal union" is not capitalized in the closed captioning of the game, as it would be if it were a name or title. Instead it's left un-capitalized suggesting that Breen is merely using an alliteration for the sake of his speech. Thus, what this article says about the Combine being referred to as "the Universal Union" is incorrect, so I am changing it back to "a universal union" unless someone is able to compose a better reason to the contrary. 96.255.136.51 06:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

In the Collaboration Speech, he speaks that sentence as if there is a comma after Universal Union. i.e. "and only The Universal Union, that small minds call 'The Combine', can carry us there."--YabbaMyIcing 17:39, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

And Our Benefactors is a title.--YabbaMyIcing 17:40, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

One could argue that the formation and speaking of his sentences does not particularly give weight to one side of the argument or the other, as it could have been spoken either way while still being grammatically correct, thus making that argument entirely subjective. However, as mentioned, the captioning for the game does not capitalize "universal union" when it DOES capitalize "The Combine", showing evidence that it was indeed just a descriptive phrase and not an official title. 96.255.136.51 19:09, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "Their slaves...we are their slaves...we are..."

Are you sure the Nihilanth is referring to the Combine? GordonGMan 13:16, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Of the three factions worth mentioning there's the Humans, the Combine, and Nihilanth's group (I forget the name). Assuming Nihilanth means both himself and the Vorts only the Combine could possibly subjigate them, so yes. It's not like humanity could do it as of HL1.-Thulu

[edit] Combine Metal

should there be something written about the blackish-blue metal that the combine use in all of their machinery? is there any information about it in Raising the Bar or any other written material? QX100 00:54, October 24, 2009 (UTC)